Evolution to blame for rise in suicides on Shankill


Fascinating little snippet on Talk Back yesterday. Apparently there had been eight suicide attempts on the Shankill Road in one day, and so we needed lots of earnest discussion on the subject. Iris the Ice Queen, chairperson of the Stormont health committee, was in to give the political perspective.

 Talk Back being Talk Back, however, it wasn’t long before sectarianism came into the equation and the punters wanted to know how the suicide rate breaks down between the two communities. Eventually it transpired that Catholics are slightly more likely than Protestants to kill themselves.

 What tilted this into the realm of GUBU, however, was a minister – not a Stormont minister but a reverend – coming on to give his perspective. The Rev was very clear on what was to blame for the rise in suicides. It was the theory of evolution. Yes, that’s right, apparently Darwinian evolution takes away meaning from one’s life and therefore suicide is only to be expected. So, to protect our young, we need to get back to teaching creationism.


  1. Idris of Dungiven said,

    June 15, 2007 at 12:14 pm

    Of course, there’s no other reasons at all why youth might regard their lives as lacking in meaning.

    Eejits like the reverend you quote are from being unusual on NI’s airwaves, though, are they? I mind hearing some guy phone in to say ‘if Tony Blair was a true christian he wouldn’t let his wife out to work’.

  2. June 15, 2007 at 3:38 pm

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  3. Ciarán said,

    June 15, 2007 at 7:08 pm

    Obviously it’s impossible to be rational with these Holy Joe types, but shouldn’t at least someone realise that if there really is a Heaven and Kingdom of God and all that jazz, then aren’t our mortal lives on Earth here ultimately pointless? Whereas those evil, godless evolutionists would come to the conclusion that there’s nothing after this life so it becomes all the more important to live this life to the full.

    But back to reality, suicide rates break down more realistically into class than religion. The highest rates of attempted suicide in the statelet are recorded in North and West Belfast, these two areas also being the most economically deprived. And of course, this state being this state, catholics are still more likely to live in economically and socially deprived areas than protestants, which would explain why catholics are considered more likely than protestants to attempt suicide.

  4. Craig said,

    June 16, 2007 at 8:52 am

    Didn’t he really mean *Social* Darwinism, though?

  5. Craig said,

    June 16, 2007 at 8:54 am

    PS I didn’t see/hear the broadcast, but when people talk about the negative effects of darwinism on society they often mean the philosophy of survival of the fittest.

  6. Louise said,

    June 17, 2007 at 4:51 pm

    Oh, so the dear Rev think we should all praise the Lord and all those suicidal feelings will go away as we will have a path to follow and a purpose in life..?

    Gee, it makes me so pleased I am an atheist (I was brought up a christian as a child and that was some head f*ck!) Nothing in the Rev’s talk, I take it, about poverty, alienation, class and isolation..it is all the fault of evolution. I think concerning the Rev, he is more a case of survival of dumbest!

    Yeah, you get the idea they are pushing creationism….

  7. Jim said,

    June 18, 2007 at 9:04 pm

    Many people, when they can’t provide evidence for their theory, adopt the strategy of falsehood. Such is the case with many of those who have fallen victim to the propaganda of renowned evolutionists, and even some false preachers.

    If evolutionists want to end the arguments all they have to do is, get their brilliant heads together and assemble a ‘simple’ living cell. This should be possible, since they certainly have a very great amount of knowledge about what is inside the ‘simple’ cell.

    After all, shouldn’t all the combined Intelligence of all the worlds scientist be able the do what chance encounters with random chemicals, without a set of instructions, accomplished about 4 billion years ago,according to the evolutionists, having no intelligence at all available to help them along in their quest to become a living entity. Surely then the evolutionists scientists today should be able to make us a ‘simple’ cell.

    If it weren’t so pitiful it would be humorous, that intelligent people have swallowed the evolution mythology.

    Beyond doubt, the main reason people believe in evolution is that sources they admire, say it is so. It would pay for these people to do a thorough examination of all the evidence CONTRARY to evolution that is readily available: Try answersingenesis.org. The evolutionists should honestly examine the SUPPOSED evidence ‘FOR’ evolution for THEMSELVES.

    Build us a cell, from scratch, with the required raw material, that is with NO cell material, just the ‘raw’ stuff, and the argument is over. But if the scientists are unsuccessful, perhaps they should try Mother Earth’s recipe, you know, the one they claim worked the first time about 4 billion years ago, so they say. All they need to do is to gather all the chemicals that we know are essential for life, pour them into a large clay pot and stir vigorously for a few billion years, and Walla, LIFE!

    Oh, you don’t believe the ‘original’ Mother Earth recipe will work? You are NOT alone, Neither do I, and MILLIONS of others!

  8. June 28, 2007 at 2:23 pm

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